Squat lag.

[Wiegieboard]

Anyone elses squat ever lagged a shit tonne behind their deadlift?

I deadlift using quite a bit of legs in the movement though not as much as an Oly lifter. My squat still just doesn't compare in any way though. It's about 75kg behind my deadlift.

If anyone has had this problem and come out the other end smiling, any chance you could gimme some insight into how you achieved a better balance between the two lifts?

Cheers,
Neill

[taffdragon]

Anyone elses squat ever lagged a shit tonne behind their deadlift?

I deadlift using quite a bit of legs in the movement though not as much as an Oly lifter. My squat still just doesn't compare in any way though. It's about 75kg behind my deadlift.

If anyone has had this problem and come out the other end smiling, any chance you could gimme some insight into how you achieved a better balance between the two lifts?

Cheers,
Neill

some people just cant squat. could be a mechanical disadvantage, or the other muscles other than the quads are weak. like inner thighs, lower back, hams etc.

or you could be squating normal weight but be a awsome deadlifter

[Wiegieboard]

Thanks for the reply.

My deadlift, bench and row gains are consistently increasing by about the same amount every week which is great.The squat is different though, I guess I'm just a weak squatter. I know that everyone has a weak lift but at my powerlifting centre, I always seem to be the one struggling to squat weights that guys in lower classes are doing. My bench on the other hand (The gay exercise) seems to go up regardless of the rep. range. I don't even seem to hit any plateaus with it.
What makes it frustrating is that my training partner is an unequipped record holder in the squat and we're both running out of ideas to try and spurn my squat on.

What I guess I'm asking is whether anyone who has had a similar problem in the past has done anything specific that has fired them past their problems in squatting?

Things like training only squat for a while?
Or have they used any support exercises which fixed the problem?
How many sets at how many reps do they use in each phase of their cycle etc?

[Dave78]

Thanks for the reply.

My deadlift, bench and row gains are consistently increasing by about the same amount every week which is great.......My bench on the other hand (The gay exercise) seems to go up regardless of the rep. range. I don't even seem to hit any plateaus with it.

haha Weigie this doesn't sound like a bad problem to have to be honest mate!

I have the opposite problem, my deadlift is borderline embarrassing but i have squatted up to double body weight. I tend to go lighter now and encorporate jumping squats and lunges etc. to try and vary it up. I find my body doesn't thank me for going heavy and the results weren't worth it tbh.

Are you comparing your squat to that of your (obviously freakishly strong) partner? Is it much over bodyweight?

[facetofootstyle]

I have the exact same problem bro, very happy with my deadlift (double bodyweight), but squat is beyond embarrising, my mrs can squat more than me only hitting bout 75kg myself and that with the nastiest porn face ever.

I no my tech is spot on aswell as my depth when squatting but i recon i just have sparrow legs man

i'm aim for 100kg squat 5x5, just going to keep aiming for it maybe il hit it in a couple of years hahahahah

[Wiegieboard]

Hey dudes.

I'm not comparing directly to my training partner. He's very talented in the squat and our body mechanics differ considerably.I'm comparing my squat to my other lifts.



I've always had an idea that I'd like my squat to lag not too far behind my deadlift with the two being as equal as possible. I believe that the two lifts should be relatively close to each other due to the fact that I deadlift with a hip depth between an Olympic Lifting depth and a powerlifting depth where you start with the hips slightly higher. I try to use a lot of legs in my deadlift as I intend on replicating the movement quite accurately in sport.

I guess that maybe I do have sparrow legs myself. I've always had long and thin legs.
I just don't want to give in and accept that I won't perform as I wish to perform when everything else is going peachy, after all, in powerlifting it's about the 3 lifts combined as opposed to one specific lift.

I guess I'll just keep on plugging away, trying different methods and eating plenty. My next step is actually trying high reps after my 4s and 2s because I progressed most successfully strengthwise on 8s of all things.

[MikeyL]

What accessory work are you doing mate?

Do you lift from pins?

Do you have problems out of the hole? Chest caving inwards? Knees giving in?

[1inchPonch]

I had the same problem for about the last year with my squat being about half what my deadlift was. Over the last couple of months i've pretty much ignored my deadlift and just focused on doing lots of squats with progressive loading (only adding 2.5kg each time). Doing this i've managed to now get my squat up to within 10kg of my deads. I'm pretty happy with my squat now as it's gone up by 50%.

I know that you know your stuff when it comes to lifting Wiegie, so i'm not even going to attempt to teach my granny to suck eggs but I found that when I hit a plateau I would do a couple days half squats (not exactly half but not full deep squats). Then, when I was happy I could manage it i'd do that weight full squats then up the weight again the next time.

It's also worth saying that i'm tall and skinny with the worst chicken legs ever so i'm not exactly built for lifting.

[Sam Wiltshire]

Anyone elses squat ever lagged a shit tonne behind their deadlift?

I deadlift using quite a bit of legs in the movement though not as much as an Oly lifter. My squat still just doesn't compare in any way though. It's about 75kg behind my deadlift.

If anyone has had this problem and come out the other end smiling, any chance you could gimme some insight into how you achieved a better balance between the two lifts?

Cheers,
Neill

Have you tryed a Squat Mechine ? instead of Free-Squat? Are you feet evenly spread and sholder width apart? are your feet pointing forward when doing this workout ? have your tryed putting a box to the correct hight of the squat so when your at the correct hight your bum will hit it ?

I squad around 85kg Atm , and this is my first 4 months in the gym. My Condision coach suggested i find a mirrior in the gym to watch myself and it worked a treat for me and now im okay and confident to squat.

So all in all-
Are you setup correctly? Feet , back , grip?
Try a mirrior & a box

Hope this help's you to some exstent

**after reading some of the oter posts it seems ive just posted aload of shit , but i maybe wrong**

[Wiegieboard]

My technique has been worked on through coaching and I'm on my way up.

I've now brought my feet farther past shoulder width and point my toes out more than before. I had a technical fault where my balance was off because my stance was only a little past shoulder width and my toes pointed too close to forward as was mentioned.
I also took some rest time when I was ill there and came back fresher. I think that a combination of things just made me a little stale. All's well now.

Thanks for the help to the folk who pmd me. I'll be doing 2.5x bw soon enough haha Just gotta put in some hard work, hard eating, hard resting and regularity.

P.S. I don't train with a mirror whilst squatting as the only thing I believe I should be looking at is the ceiling. It was a setup problem right enough though.