Squat lag.

[Sam Wiltshire]

My technique has been worked on through coaching and I'm on my way up.

I've now brought my feet farther past shoulder width and point my toes out more than before. I had a technical fault where my balance was off because my stance was only a little past shoulder width and my toes pointed too close to forward as was mentioned.
I also took some rest time when I was ill there and came back fresher. I think that a combination of things just made me a little stale. All's well now.

Thanks for the help to the folk who pmd me. I'll be doing 2.5x bw soon enough haha Just gotta put in some hard work, hard eating, hard resting and regularity.

P.S. I don't train with a mirror whilst squatting as the only thing I believe I should be looking at is the ceiling. It was a setup problem right enough though.

Great new's but to have a effective squat you need your toes and feet straight foward rather than at a angel because it may cause one leg to have more musel strain and more chance of pulling the leg thats at the more correct prosistion.

If you want a diagram of what i mean then feel free

May i just send you to this website - http://stronglifts.com/how-not-to-sq...ou-must-avoid/
I belive if you do everything that it says not to then you should be better

And everyone is open to mirriors or not , but i personaly think its better for myself anyhow . as i can see where i am going wrong more easyly.

[DanCrase]

I have a squat lag too, I deadlift about 140kg for 5 reps, but I squat about 85kg. Thats a big lag.

[Wiegieboard]

Great new's but to have a effective squat you need your toes and feet straight foward rather than at a angel because it may cause one leg to have more musel strain and more chance of pulling the leg thats at the more correct prosistion.

I would have to disagree with this.If squatting with the toes pointing forward, it is impossible to achieve legal depth even when resting on your hunkers which is something that you shouldn't do whilst squatting. Keeping the toes forward unless your legs are completely together (which is highly unusual) actually creates strain on the hips, knees and ankles as this is not the correct physiological alignment of these joints.
Also, if you're not looking up and are looking forward at a mirror, your back posture is incorrect causing a tendency to pitch forward when you lift due to a disruption of your correct lifting line and decreases the load you are capable of moving. This also means that you risk serious injury with a bar falling on your neck after rounding your spine to a dangerous point. You also don't have a mirror in competition and if you aren't used to feeling the squat, instead opting to look at yourself, your squat wont be consistent with what you've been doing in training which is essential when in competition with maximum load.


Also, I'm glad I wasn't the only one who had a lag. Dancrase, that difference is crazy man! Do you dead with pretty straight legs?
Because I fixed the problem, my lifts are now only 20 or so kilos apart. I imagine that they will become closer over the next few weeks again.

Cheers dudes.

[DanCrase]

Also, I'm glad I wasn't the only one who had a lag. Dancrase, that difference is crazy man! Do you dead with pretty straight legs?
Because I fixed the problem, my lifts are now only 20 or so kilos apart. I imagine that they will become closer over the next few weeks again.

Cheers dudes.

Yeah, my deadlifts are more Romanian Deadlifts really; I only bend my knees about 45 degrees

[Sam Wiltshire]

I would have to disagree with this.If squatting with the toes pointing forward, it is impossible to achieve legal depth even when resting on your hunkers which is something that you shouldn't do whilst squatting. Keeping the toes forward unless your legs are completely together (which is highly unusual) actually creates strain on the hips, knees and ankles as this is not the correct physiological alignment of these joints.
Also, if you're not looking up and are looking forward at a mirror, your back posture is incorrect causing a tendency to pitch forward when you lift due to a disruption of your correct lifting line and decreases the load you are capable of moving. This also means that you risk serious injury with a bar falling on your neck after rounding your spine to a dangerous point. You also don't have a mirror in competition and if you aren't used to feeling the squat, instead opting to look at yourself, your squat wont be consistent with what you've been doing in training which is essential when in competition with maximum load.


Also, I'm glad I wasn't the only one who had a lag. Dancrase, that difference is crazy man! Do you dead with pretty straight legs?
Because I fixed the problem, my lifts are now only 20 or so kilos apart. I imagine that they will become closer over the next few weeks again.

Cheers dudes.

Hmm well my gym coach at the uni , tell me to do it like that :S

[Wiegieboard]

He sounds like he may potentially be YMCA qualified if he teaches those points?
I remember them teaching all kinds of stuff like that back in 2001 and 2002.

[judostu]

When I was actually lifting consistently a few years a go my deadlift was 180kg for 5 reps and I struggled squating 100kgs for one. Think the fact I love deadlifting but hate squating contributed to this huge difference. Have you tried staring your squat from the bottom position if you are using a rack. I tried this for a short while but gave up as it was disgusting!

[1inchPonch]

Great new's but to have a effective squat you need your toes and feet straight foward rather than at a angel because it may cause one leg to have more musel strain and more chance of pulling the leg thats at the more correct prosistion.

If you want a diagram of what i mean then feel free

May i just send you to this website - http://stronglifts.com/how-not-to-sq...ou-must-avoid/
I belive if you do everything that it says not to then you should be better

And everyone is open to mirriors or not , but i personaly think its better for myself anyhow . as i can see where i am going wrong more easyly.

Yup, this contradicts everything i've ever been told about squating.

[Wiegieboard]

When I was actually lifting consistently a few years a go my deadlift was 180kg for 5 reps and I struggled squating 100kgs for one. Think the fact I love deadlifting but hate squating contributed to this huge difference. Have you tried staring your squat from the bottom position if you are using a rack. I tried this for a short while but gave up as it was disgusting!

Holy crap that sounds horrible! It must be hella hard to balance doing that. I've done box squatting before but never started from the bottom.

Was this for near max singles or what?

[judostu]

Tried it much less than max because as I said it makes it much more difficult starting from the hardest part of the lift stationary.
Got the idea from a book called dinosaur training by Brooks Kubik. The book is brilliant and emphasises on hard work ethic whilst training and talks alot about using thick handled dumbells and bars, sandbag/barrel lifting, grip training and old school lifts bent press etc. Well worth the read!