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Drills to improve punching power
Just wondered if anyone knew any good drills or anythign else to improve punching power? Thanks
Theres a few good ideas on ross training using isometrics before power punching heavy bag, building rotational strength in the core etc. .
I put a thread up a while back "increased hand speed " which Ian Butlin and others added some great input, i will try and find it.
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As hinted at by Bateman. Punching power is the result of increased speed.
I believe the equation is speed x distance = force or Speed/distance = force.... someone more scientific can confirm
Speed is typically the result of good technique and (as you are a guitarist) you know, to develop speed you need to perfect the technique slowly and build up. So focus on the correct technique, slowly speed it up, stay relaxed, breath and power will come.
There are exceptions to the rule. Some people who are blessed with power... they can generate devastating KO power, without the perfect technique... I have met maybe 3-4 who really fell into this catagory
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Cheers lads I'll have look for that thread Bateman that sounds exactly what I'm after!
Yeah I'm guessing treat it like alternate and sweep picking? Start slow perfect it and speed it up?
Originally Posted by ReD_mIst
Force = mass x acceleration
So yes, if your punch has a higher acceleration then the force is greater.
Speed = Distance / Time Nothing to do with force there.
Another way of looking at it is Power = (Force x Distance)/Time
As the time it takes to complete the movement becomes less, the power becomes more. Force x Distance = Work.
It may be better to look at this from a sports science perspective.
Power = The combination of strength and speed
Therefore you can be very strong but have no power. You can also be very fast and have no power. You have to combine them both.
"Punching power is the result of increased speed."
True, but you also need to increase strength too.
Just thought I'd be the geek and confirm that. ;P
F=ma is about the resultant acceleration if you apply a force F to a mass a.
Originally Posted by Matt The Giant
For the 'power' of a punch you probably want momentum = velocity * mass or kinetic energy = 1/2*mass*(velocity^2)
Also, never underestimate a padman or trainer with a good eye.
I've had guys talk the arseholes out of technique, tried to correct too many things at one, expected too much too soon etc but Gary Pemberton at Cardiff YMCA was just a one word answer to every punch.
Take the jab for example...
Then he'd give you a moment for your body to 'remember' what it did right, slowly inbed it over time and you'd just go looking for that 'yes' again.
A good trainer in a shack is worth 1000 shiney new gyms and 'shortcut' training drills. Everything else is suplimentary.
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"F=ma is about the resultant acceleration if you apply a force F to a mass a." It was a rudimentary example to begin with, hence my second example, but you could argue it is still applicable seeing as an object (fist) traveling with a certain acceleration at a certain mass will give "x" force. The acceleration is taking into account an initial velocity of zero and a final velocity of more than zero, therefore acceleration can be used.
Originally Posted by PointyShinyBurning
Or I may be wrong, if so I'd happily listen to why (mind u, may be best via pm to save the others).
And yeh I meant to include kinetic energy but forgot. ¬¬
Kinetic is probably the best you are right, seeing as it is the channelling of kinetic energy that causes a lot of damage, or so I believe. However, in sports science they use that description of power, which fitted better with the power formula I gave.
But let's not let this devolve into a physics debate. ;P
For you to increase your punching power other things relating to punching must change, not always a change for the better.
Use your mass better.
Putting weight on is an option, not a good one though.
A better option is to make sure you are using the power of your legs and transrefing this power through your hips, torso and shoulders at the right time.
Also to use your mass better, play with distancing. Try punching from a slightly longer distance and using a small step/slide into your punch. (As I said earlier the benefits of increasing punching power have faults, in this example you will telegraph your punch more).
This slight step also has the advantage that it can create some head movement if you are stepping on an angle.
Increase the distance your punch travels.
As stated above Power = (Force x Distance)/Time, so if you throw slightly longer punches as quickly as possible and back it up with a good use of your mass (legs, torso, shoulders) you will increase your power.
Increase your speed/acceleration.
Learn to relax through your punch.
Practise increasing your speed on short punches first, with long combo's with a good fast pad man. The transfer this speed to your longer punches.