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Thread: Why are we not allowed to do bicep splicers in comps??

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    James Saville once showed me this and OMFG did it hurt!

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    Senior Member Rob T's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Hayes View Post
    Be careful.

    The bigger your biceps are,the more it will hurt and the earlier you will tap.

    The smaller your biceps are,the less it will hurt,causing you to decide not to tap,meaning you will either

    a.Detach your biceps from the elbow joint

    b.Force your elbow joint to open up (shattering the joint)

    C.Snap your forearm.
    You know it's bad when option C is probably the best outcome!! -

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    Default broken radial bone

    The year they made it illegal until brown belt, I was in Rio training at Royer's school (Gracie Humaita). Can't remember exactly if it was 2003 or 2004. I was getting ready for the International Masters & Seniors Championship. A bunch of guys in the school were talking about how as many as three or four blue belts had their forearms broken by the 'chave de biceps' locks in the Mundial earlier that summer. Apparently the victims thought that the technique was just applying pressure to their bicep muscle and decided to tough out the pain. Then 'crack'!, their radial bone broke right at the point where the bicep tendon attaches to it. Sounds like the tendon was actually stronger than the bone.

    The CBJJ decided to move the submission to brown belt and above because, like the knee bar, there isn't the same kind of 'pre-injury pain' that can be felt with techniques like the kimura or arm bar, or the conception of pain is different. Inexperienced grapplers were assuming there wasn't danger of an injury, just muscle pain.

    I don't agree with making certain submissions illegal or limited by belt rank, but I do understand their thought process behind the decision. I still teach it early on too.


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    If you put a limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.

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    Ever so slightly mental illegalhunter's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Hayes View Post
    Because they splice Biceps.

    I have seen a detached bicep and it's not nice.
    Ive got 1.............
    They guy who invented Burpees , is a secret child molester

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