My BJJ Teacher Wilson who i have trained with for almost 10 years has a strong wrestling background.My Judo teacher Jim Warren was also a freestyle wrestler so my Judo style has a strong wrestling influence.The takedowns i teach are probably best described as a hybrid of the 2 with an 80% judo and 20% wrestling split.
When you have always trained BJJ and Judo together it is easy to modify the judo you teach to be relevant for BJJ and not try techniques that could get you choked in BJJ.
I haven't ever seen a 'pure' BJJ takedown.All BJJ takedowns come from wrestling or judo.
Nowadays in competition Judo if you close the guard your opponent has about 5 seconds to open it and pass before 'matte' is called.
At Carlson's sometimes we fight from standing and don't allow guard jumping to try and develop our students takedowns.Other times we allow jumping to guard.As well as training takedowns we also practise guard jumping although in my classes not as much.
Thanks for the ipon advice.
I was also told this week that a traditional single leg or double leg is illegal in judo comps now?
Anyway, I'm just guna take what I see as useful from the class and not do the things I believe to be bad habits for self defence such as exposing ur neck and putting ur head ridiculously low.
Simon's right (as usual), if it's taught with MMA or self defence in mind then it's definately useful. If it's taught for competitions then there are definitely some flaws to be exposed in a real fight. Also, it certainly appears that size and strength have a bigger advantage than in BJJ...
BJC have banned Morote Gari. However, there is very little opportunity to use it if any as a combination or counter so I don't think it makes much difference.
Working with Braulio as well as former World Judo Champion - Neil Adams who also has covered this subject (gripping) in one of his lessons I filmed, it's interesting to see the variations between the two depending on if its Judo or BJJ.
I would say the biggest most obvious thing is the posture and how that allows and restricts certain moves. But at the same time, with these guys at the level they are, the same restrictions that are imposed due to differing posture, also open up new lines of attack that are unique to each style only.
For example, Neil covered a very nice lesson (which was actually no-gi) and taught some takedowns, and takedown reversals that were from a Judo background, but were quite specific to countering wrestlers, or MMA fighters or BJJ. the lines of attack he was utilizing would probably not get taught within BJJ/wrestling/mma due to them having come from a Judo specific rules set.
Therefore, I find that each style not only closes down attacks from the others according to the rules, and emphasis on things like posture etc, but also opens up new lines of attack that are overlooked within each style due to its own restrictions on postures/rules etc....
Not sure thats very clear to read!..?
In other words, its all good!
not sure on the bogof by the way, am working on a few other things such as iphone apps at the moment for Christmas release!