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    Hello!

    Re me: I have been training in Judo for just over a year and am about to sit my green belt grading, so I am not the most experienced yet by any means. I've competed and I got gold in my first comp (kyu grades +100kg) and am looking to compete as much as I can, working my way up to dan grade and beyond, and to a high level of competition if I can.

    What I am wondering; can a judoka compete in a full gi BJJ tournament as a novice having only done Judo and not being part of a BJJ club? Or would the player need to be a member and licence holder in a certain federation ie the IBJJF (is that what its called?).

    I know judo is no where near as extensive in groundwork as BJJ, but at my club where I train twice a week, we do 3 x 5min full groundfights by way of ne-waza randori every session, and we study transitions and submissions every session too. In my club particularly, my sensei loves ne-waza which is why we do a lot, but in the gradings there is plenty too. In the lower grades, transitions and positions ie hold downs. Then from middle grades upwards there are chokes, strangles and armlocks.

    I am thinking of entering the www.gototheground.com round 2 in february for some no-gi fun; but also thought if I could, I would maybe put on my gi and enter a novice BJJ comp just for a roll.

    Is that possible? Could I enter a BJJ comp and roll with some whitebelts? Obviously I would be a white belt.
    Im sure I would get dominated, but I'm not that bad technically for a middle grade judoka and Im pretty strong. There is an ex-BJJ fighter at the club (he only reached blue belt - now a brown belt in judo) but he is 105kg and though he normally taps me, it takes him the 5 minutes to do so. I've never tapped him but do tap many at the club.

    I dont mind losing when its not my sport, I just wondered if its possible as I like competing and rolling. There are Ne-waza comps in judo, but outside of full judo comps, Im not much of a hold down to win fan. I dont mind being on my back in guard and quite like the time to work my way from there.

    Please advise if you can.

    Thanks

    James

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    From what i know you should be able to enter most tournaments, however having done judo a very long time at a pretty high level....do not expect it to be anything like ne waza,

    the pace is totally different, two totally different games that look so similar.

    good luck in your judo though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mon View Post
    What I am wondering; can a judoka compete in a full gi BJJ tournament as a novice having only done Judo and not being part of a BJJ club? Or would the player need to be a member and licence holder in a certain federation ie the IBJJF (is that what its called?).
    No, there is no such regulation in BJJ at your level. Anyone is free to enter.

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    Please advise if you can.
    Enter the competition, have fun, see if you learn anything. I'd recommend you get someone who knows it to demonstrate the straight ankle lock for you, just so you'll recognise if you're caught in it and know to tap. If your friend the blue belt competed he should be able to explain the rules and scoring to you.

    If you're going to enter the no-gi competition make sure you know what a kneebar looks like and the basic defence for it as well.

    Other than that, watch out for people aggressively pulling guard, try to at least get your knee up in 'combat base' to work your passing rather than letting them get their legs locked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mon View Post
    Hello!

    Re me: I have been training in Judo for just over a year and am about to sit my green belt grading, so I am not the most experienced yet by any means. I've competed and I got gold in my first comp (kyu grades +100kg) and am looking to compete as much as I can, working my way up to dan grade and beyond, and to a high level of competition if I can.

    What I am wondering; can a judoka compete in a full gi BJJ tournament as a novice having only done Judo and not being part of a BJJ club? Or would the player need to be a member and licence holder in a certain federation ie the IBJJF (is that what its called?).

    I know judo is no where near as extensive in groundwork as BJJ, but at my club where I train twice a week, we do 3 x 5min full groundfights by way of ne-waza randori every session, and we study transitions and submissions every session too. In my club particularly, my sensei loves ne-waza which is why we do a lot, but in the gradings there is plenty too. In the lower grades, transitions and positions ie hold downs. Then from middle grades upwards there are chokes, strangles and armlocks.

    I am thinking of entering the www.gototheground.com round 2 in february for some no-gi fun; but also thought if I could, I would maybe put on my gi and enter a novice BJJ comp just for a roll.

    Is that possible? Could I enter a BJJ comp and roll with some whitebelts? Obviously I would be a white belt.
    Im sure I would get dominated, but I'm not that bad technically for a middle grade judoka and Im pretty strong. There is an ex-BJJ fighter at the club (he only reached blue belt - now a brown belt in judo) but he is 105kg and though he normally taps me, it takes him the 5 minutes to do so. I've never tapped him but do tap many at the club.

    I dont mind losing when its not my sport, I just wondered if its possible as I like competing and rolling. There are Ne-waza comps in judo, but outside of full judo comps, Im not much of a hold down to win fan. I dont mind being on my back in guard and quite like the time to work my way from there.

    Please advise if you can.

    Thanks

    James

    maybe you should try some hard rolling at a bjj class just to get a flavour of it before the comp?

    I find that judo guys try all kinds of crazy stuff (attacking from within guard) etc

    why not just go here http://bjjessex.blogspot.com/ and try some classes?

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    Go to the ground in february is going to be SICK. You will not regret that competition.

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    Just go for it!

    BJJ competitions are full of judo players who are fed up with too many rules/rule changes etc.

    One possible problem you might have is that the heavyweight divisions have 2 distinct populations: chuby chaps & monsters. I train with a couple of Polish guys who look like Terminator.

    If I were you, I would look to throw (2pts), then keep your opponent on his back, work to pass and look to submit When you are training ne waza work for tate shiho gatame a lot, so you get used to the way people try to avoid the mount.

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    Thank you everyone!

    I have read all your posts and am very grateful. I will reply properly when I get on my computer at home as leaving work now but thanks!

    I will take all of your advice on board and do all of them! I will go for it definitely, will go to a couple of classes for tasters and some experience, and I will use the throws in comp if I can and try to dominate the top.

    I dont know what the weight classes are, Im 106kg at the mo but am leaning up at the moment so will probably drop under 100kg. Im an ex-natural bodybuilder so have built up about 4-5 stone of muscle in the 10 years at 6 foot. Its taken me a while to learn to use it functionally on the mat though.
    So I dont know which weight class Ill sit best in.
    One thing I do know is I prefer +100kg judo. But depending on BJJ weight classes I can manipulate myself easy enough to avoid getting squashed!

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