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    Has anyone seen this thread, I stumbled across it whilst 'working'

    http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f12/origins-evolution-differences-similarities-branches-jiu-jitsu-de-brasileiro-673129/index5.html


    I started on page 5 but the dude Shaolin Bushido has plenty of posts before. Does anyone know who this guy is? He seems to be the foremost expert on the origins of BJJ in the world!

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    Carlson Gracie was considered the "Godfather of MMA" and was family champion for a long time. He went out on his own after he got tired of Helio yelling at him for teaching "outsiders" (anyone not family) certain techniques. Carlson believed those that trained under/with him were his family and held nothing back. This got him ostracized from the rest of the family.
    WOW anyone know if there was any truth in this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oddball View Post
    WOW anyone know if there was any truth in this?
    yes, it's true.

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    man that kinda sucks must admit really enjoyed the sherdog posts loads of info on it!

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    Makes Carlsons legacy all the greater!

    Think about it, ontop of the effect his teaching had on the explosion of creativity in BJJ, if the above is true then he had a far reaching and massive impact on every single BJJ academy worldwide and how BJJ was, is today and will be taught in the future - everywhere!

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    But was Carlson a profiteer who taught outsiders because he could make money doing so? If not, does anyone know what motivated him to teach people outside the family?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Last Starfighter View Post
    But was Carlson a profiteer who taught outsiders because he could make money doing so? If not, does anyone know what motivated him to teach people outside the family?
    Carlson was famous for teaching for free.

    If he spotted a tough kid at the boxing club,or at the beach and the kid was from the favela the kid would train for nothing.That is why he didn't die a rich man (RIP)
    Carlson's aim was to produce champions,not make money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simon hayes View Post
    carlson was famous for teaching for free.

    If he spotted a tough kid at the boxing club,or at the beach and the kid was from the favela the kid would train for nothing.that is why he didn't die a rich man (rip)
    carlson's aim was to produce champions,not make money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Hayes View Post
    Carlson was famous for teaching for free.

    If he spotted a tough kid at the boxing club,or at the beach and the kid was from the favela the kid would train for nothing.That is why he didn't die a rich man (RIP)
    Carlson's aim was to produce champions,not make money.
    I heard about this didn't he also have most of his team living with him at one point or another once he'd gone to the US?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gareth View Post
    I heard about this didn't he also have most of his team living with him at one point or another once he'd gone to the US?
    Vitor lived with him i think. It took him something stupid like 4 days to go from blue to black belt.

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