Its ok saying that if you know what you are doing jailbreak wise but tried telling a few mates in work how to and end up with blank states, also do you still need to update the jailbreak if you connect to the store or something - seem to remember an issue with it locking the phone or something and people bitching about updating the jailbreak (don't keep on top of it as don't need to)
HTC - jailbroken out of the box
It really is horses for courses though (but the HTC horse is faster, smarter and looks better and costs less to feed and train)






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