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    Hi, hope everyone is well!

    I'm bored, need inspiration, so thought I'd start a thread to wake me up before sparring...

    Here's a thought and a question. With performance being so closely linked to your state of mind, how do you guys get into your perfect 'performance state' for training or fighting?

    What sort of rituals or props do you use...key words...procedure of working...what strategies do you lot use to get into the right state of mind and body for training and fighting?

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    i use autogenic training quiet a bit during a training camp.

    also to gauge how my cardio will hold up in the fight i have a hill where i need to do a certain number of sprints up to feel as if i am fighting fit. i use a borg scale to determine how hard it is. i feel hard cardio/conditioning plays a major role in developing yourself mentally for a fight.

    before a fight when i start getting nervous a little i usually start to compile lists in my head of good and bad things about what im about to do. the positive list picks up veryhting in relation to why fighting is good and may have positives that mean hardly anythnig just in order to make the positive side of the list very large and the negative side is usally really really picky lol. this is to tell myself what im about to do is right.

    i also have a pre fight speech for the parents because in the beginning they didnt know why i was doing it. now its more for ritual.
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    Hi Andy, hope you are well!

    Autogenic training is all about relaxation, so from this you find that you perform far better when nice and relaxed? Or is it more to help you relax, recover, meditate, carry out mental imagery etc….

    How do you deal with the negatives?

    S’funny how things get conditioned in as rituals lol!!!

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    i carry out autogenic training after my usual training because it helps me release any built up tension that has amounted in training. it allows me to leave the gym with a clearer head and more complete if that makes sense. it makes me feel more in touch with my body and release tension. during fight night it allows me to not release nervous energy. it also allows me to focus on the task at hand as well as just in general chill out and focus on my breathing.


    i deal with the negatives through looking at the lists in my head together and seeing that the positives outweigh the negatives helps a lot. also some negatives can be neutralised by positives eg
    (negative)'i might get hurt' .......
    (minds solution picked from the positive pile)'yeah well andy this is a sport and the referee is there to look after you if you get in bother my friend. also this is a sport there is no consequences to your actions in there so you wont get knifed by his friend later in your home village'.
    tghese negatives can create more meaningess positives.
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    Cool - lots of ways it can be done mate. Have a look into mental rehearsal, mental imagery, setting up 'triggers' to get the response, remembering a time when you 'rocked' and see what you saw hear what you heard and feel the feelings...make it real...run the first round in your head 'before' the first round...

    If you do the same thing you'll get the same results...so try something different? Its clear you have the ability from your round 2 performances...

    It definitely can be done mate! Practice, deliberate practice to achieve it...if you can't, I'll post more advice for you...oh, and a memory changes EVERY time you access it...and you only remember the last time you accessed the memory...memory is plastic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OGLE View Post
    i also have a pre fight speech for the parents because in the beginning they didnt know why i was doing it. now its more for ritual.
    thats pretty awesome, I like the way its now something you do every fight - very interesting stuff

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    ShaolinSubz - many 'rituals' pre-fight, pre-game etc come from the association formed from a previous good performance...hence why people wear their 'lucky shorts' and the like - because they've worn them in the past during a great performance.

    Good to mess with these people, and break their ritual patterns!! Watch them fall apart lol...

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    I have the issue of being a relaxed and chilled person , this concerned my trainers as I didnt feel nerves before a fight which meant i often dropped the first round because i didnt get into the fight as quickly as I should. Round 2 and 3 was great , up off the stool and straigh out... I would smash out rounds of pads before the fight to get me ready, but it didnt make much difference to the start of the fight.

    Its great for boxing as I dont have the tension in the shoulders, just full on relaxed through out the fight.

    If I could have got the urgency from round two into round one then it would have been great, i would watch guys with ipod on , tapping feet , I would just chill and then hit pads. No issues with cardio, endurance , just chilled out. Not sure if this answers your question, but i couldnt alter my memory state to change that first round

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    Cool - lots of ways it can be done mate. Have a look into mental rehearsal, mental imagery, setting up 'triggers' to get the response, remembering a time when you 'rocked' and see what you saw hear what you heard and feel the feelings...make it real...run the first round in your head 'before' the first round...

    If you do the same thing you'll get the same results...so try something different? Its clear you have the ability from your round 2 performances...

    It definitely can be done mate! Practice, deliberate practice to achieve it...if you can't, I'll post more advice for you...oh, and a memory changes EVERY time you access it...and you only remember the last time you accessed the memory...memory is plastic...

    Best regards,

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    Smiler , this sounds like "Inception..." dream level 3 , a dream within a dream within a dream ...

    I use visualisation techniques for my training , especially BJJ , going over stuff in my brain as though I am watching me doing it, you saying do the same for a fight ?

    its all very interesting , i started reading "the Fighters Mind " but gave that up

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