Gimp,Originally Posted by The Gimp
Some of his many businesses include dealing in moody gold, caravans, coursing and dags...
1. I got you that wedding ring on the cheap, if you wanted one where the gold paint would have lasted past the wedding day you would have had to pay more.
2. You never said that caravan had to have wheels.
3. If you wanted a house trained dag, that had no interest in eating your furniture or you , you should have stated that.
You interested in come cheap carpet boss ?
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Jesus christ. What language is he speaking? Caribbean Cockney? - An American commenting on Terry Etim's accent
How do you know someone's world class until they've been in a war?
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to suggest they be in a war though might mean they are not world class. I cant remember many wars Anderson Silva has been in..
but my point is, Jon Jones, current UFC LHW champion, took the very very easy road to UFC, and well, he is world class and never got in a war, before, or after he joined UFC.
im just saying, its well and good to look at fighters and say, boo hoo your taking the easy road ducking hard fights. but if they are not good enough, they will get exposed, if they are good enough and do well (win championships in the UFC), then whats the big deal?
Anthony Pettis pretty much did same thing too and so did Frankie Edgar, who got in only after a handful of fights too...
I think people look way to much into it, or they are just upset that people are getting chances over others because they feel that they have done the "right" thing and way about getting there.
Last edited by James-w; 06-08-2011 at 07:49 PM.
Sure - I should have said - unless you can beat the best in the world without getting in a war... but those fighters are few and far between.
My point was that it's easy to look good in the gym. Every gym in the country has at least one or two fighters who are going to be "the next big thing". But you never know what a fighter has until s/he has been really tested.
You're right though, there's a big difference between getting to the UFC and getting somewhere in the UFC, so yes, maybe it works out in the end. Although i'd still argue that it means some of the best fighters get overlooked, which is a shame.
One of the biggest problems though is the effect it has on the domestic scene when fighters start avoiding tough domestic fights because they want to take the easy route. There are more and more good up and coming fighters, logic says that not all of them are going to make it to the UFC... watching wannabe prospects repeatedly beat up overmatched lithuanians is like watching paint dry with added testosterone. It would be like selecting people for medical school based on who can sing "head, shoulders, knees and toes" the fastest. Sure, the people who aren't cut out for it will wash out anyway, but it's still dumb and wasteful.
Last edited by Rosi; 06-08-2011 at 08:16 PM.
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I agree with you the domestic scene will suffer, but that might be due to fighters thinking they dont need to take tough fights to get to the UFC as you said, or it could be that show are not paying anywhere near the money the fight deserves.
I could look at one of my fighters and say, ok, who is the best guy in your division, try to match it up, and then have shows offer 500 or £600 for it. against the BEST guy in the weight class. I would think, whats the point, its going to be the hardest fight of your career to date, for the same money, you could fight someone not as tough and still hae a W.
I think its both the padded record and the money whats going to play a part now.
I have the exact problem right now with a fighter wanting to fight one of mine, but wont because the money isnt very good and its a tough fight, I totaly see where he is coming from, and maybe because of the money, he will decide not to put his record on the line, and my guy loses out on a career stepping fight. but he could go on and beat 3 or 4 guys in quick time who are "bums" and he would still be as good a fighter and train with the top level guys he does. he wouldnt be any worse a fighter for it, but he wouldnt have that "name" on his record
Yep, I agree. The problem is that the way the UFC selects fighters doesn't seem to give people the incentive to take tough fights. Fighters have to do what they think is right for their career, I guess.
Perhaps, though, the thing that sometimes gets overlooked is the experience that goes along with having fought good people.
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What is he referring to here? I haven't got a clue what he means?
TFL: What do you feel is the next target to aim for in order to make MMA a bigger sport in the UK?
GB: This is a loaded question because you and I both know the answer to this one, but I’m not even going to touch upon answering it.
the long over due G B.
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Ah ok, thanks. I get you now.
Yes, very long overdue.
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