I keep hearing about wrestling guys transitioning to MMA. What exactly are the differences between Junior college, division 1, division 2, etc?
Is this all Free style? Or also Greco?
Is there as many successful Free style and Greco guys?
Please forgive my lack of knowledge but Im sure I'm not the only person wondering this.
answer to yur question.
collegiate style wrestling is the NCAA style of wrestling. In some corners its called folkstyle. it differs from freestyle in that you don't give up points for going on your back and you get points for reversals and escapes.
colleges are ranked nationally in america via the NCAA system eg division 1, division 2 (tthough this doesn't sometimes reflect the college as i could be wrong but mo lawal was a division 2 champ but beat division 1 guys and ended up going to the world championships.)
Greco roman is all upper body throws, takedowns and turn overs, you are not allowed to touch the legs at any point in the match or use them to gain advantage.
freestyle combines greco roman and leg attacks , turn overs and turn overs involving the legs as wells as pins.
as for your other question Randy couture , don fry and dan severn were all greco roman wrestlers while mark coleman, brock lesnar, cain valasquez etc are all freestyle or collegiate wrestlers.
hope this helps and any more questions let me know.
Firstly very many thanks for taking the time to answer this.
Originally Posted by wrestlewar
Just a further question: so the colleges are put in divisions but these in themselves are not necesarily reflecting the individual? i.e. you could get a great wrestler in division 2. Is it possible for college's to work their way up a division or down then with time? These questions may sound dawky but I am just genuinely interested.
There's actually 5 divisions.
Originally Posted by jayman2606
NAIA (Bobby Lashley)
CC (Community College) (Cain Velasquez, Rampage, Matyushenko)
Usually what happens is if someone wins their division in their fresh, soph or junior year they transfer to a D1 school from D2/D3/NAIA/CC.
Alot of times if somebody doesn't have good grades they go the CC route and improve their grades.
That's the current way to move up to D1.
In the 70s and before, my understanding is that you could actually compete in the D1 championship if you qualified even if you were a D2 wrestler. So you could be D1 and D2 champion because the D2 tournament was before the D1 tournament. So some D2 wrestlers were able to become D1 champion.
Also is NCAA style more relevant to MMA or is it the other way around?
It's the wrestler that makes the style . Both collegiate and freestyle and fervor wrestlers have all been successful in mma
Schools can't move up and down the division level as it comes down to funding and the level of its program .
Powerhouses in wrestling are Iowa and Iowa state , Oklahoma, Nebraska and numerous others otherwise known as the big ten , all others are division 2 3 and so forth
Cheers dude. It sounds like the Mid west rules when it comes to wrestling!
Freestyle and Greco-Roman are the two Olympic styles. The rules and scoring are both identical, except that Greco-Roman prohibits and leg attacks or holds- so no double or single leg takedowns. Everything that is allowed in Greco is allowed in Freestyle.
Folkstyle looks quite like Freestyle, but there are a few things that Folkstyle doesn't allow (like suplexes).
The main differences are in the scoring - Freestyle favours back exposure (getting behind your opponent and tilting their back to face the mat, whereas Folkstyle favours rides (being on top).
The rules of the Olympic styles seem to change quite often, sometimes these changes are very poorly received, such as the current drawing balls out of a bag thing.
Any American who wrestled at school will have done Folkstyle, before converting to Freestyle or Greco at international level.
NCAA competition has 3 divisions. The best wrestlers routinely wrestle in D1 and D1 school will often recruit good wrestlers from D2 & D3 schools. Likewise, D1 wrestlers might transfer to D2 school to bolster the program there (Matt Furey did this and became a D2 champion).
Anyone who finishes in the top 10 of their division at the end of the year is classed as an "All American".
All wrestling in Britain is Freestyle, although the BAWA is the governing body for both Freestyle and Greco.
Thanks dude very informative.
Originally Posted by jonbroster
I'm not sure what Matt Fury's exact situation was but almost nobody would transfer out of a D1 school for a D2 school if they were a starter. A transfer would basically happen if they couldn't crack the starting line up, had bad grades or something along those lines.
Originally Posted by jonbroster
And just a correction but, All American is top 8 finish, not top 10.