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    Default Why no structure to bjj training?

    Is it still the norm to have the 'relaxed' method to training in bjj?

    i.e. no real structure to the training or progression of students.

    Do most clubs still operate a "you will get graded when your instructor thinks you're ready" mentality?

    Found this clip
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo5lmQsWT5M

    Some good skills, and looks like this is a more organized and structured way to reward students ...

    Just a thought.

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    That was awesome. I would love it if everywhere was like that. Pro's and cons for both ways though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alberto View Post
    Is it still the norm to have the 'relaxed' method to training in bjj?

    i.e. no real structure to the training or progression of students.
    Which clubs have no structure to their training? Shitty clubs.


    Quote Originally Posted by alberto View Post
    Do most clubs still operate a "you will get graded when your instructor thinks you're ready" mentality?
    This is not a "mentality", it is the best way to grade people. I don't care how many techniques someone can drill correctly, can they apply them against a fully resisting opponent? Can they fight?


    Quote Originally Posted by alberto View Post
    Found this clip
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo5lmQsWT5M

    Some good skills, and looks like this is a more organized and structured way to reward students ...

    Just a thought.
    That is just a demo which his students can choose to do if they want. It does not determine whether they get promoted or not.
    http://www.ChrisReesAcademy.com - http://thetattooedchimp.blogspot.co.uk/

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    you know what my reward is? being awesome!

    true story
    man, when you're the nail, hang in there....until the day you become the hammer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Hayes View Post
    You want a reward bro?
    I think if everyone who trains wants rewarded for their hard work, dedication, and money spent!

    I have heard and seen footage of experienced grapplers stating "my goals for this coming year is to gain my blue belt / purple belt" etc... So its not just newbies wanting a black belt in a few years to show off down the pub.

    My main point is that people have previously stated "dont worry about gradings / progressing, your instructor will grade you when ready"... and "I dont care if I get graded or not as long as im getting better"..

    Well, yeah I agree to a certain extent that theres no point kidding yourself on just because you show a movement in a 'grading' one day then hey presto you have a funky new belt to buy.. i.e. karate katas ...

    But I think if everyone is honest with themselves, if you were to train for 8 years in bjj and you still werent graded (and others were) then I guarantee you wouldnt still be saying "well im getting better, this white belt kinda suits me anyway "...

    If it is up to your instructor to decide, well what if he cant stand you since you stink of B.O and have doses of ringworm every week?!

    Would it not be better for the progression of bjj, a modern martial art it may be, that it lays down some sort of structure (worldwide) so everyones singing off the same sheet..

    again, just a thought...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob T View Post







    That is just a demo which his students can choose to do if they want. It does not determine whether they get promoted or not.
    My bad if I got it wrong.
    Just presumed since it was titled purple belt exam, and he gets given / awarded belt at end of vid. Some silky skills on show whatever it is

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    If your club has no training structure then you're at the wrong club surely.

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    If someone has problems which will stop the instructor promoting them, the instructor should tell them. I would.

    A set syllabus wouldn't help anything. Then you'd have people who could drill every technique perfectly and expect a belt even though they suck in sparring. Those Roy Dean videos highlight this... watch the blue belt one; the guy looks mega slick drilling but in sparring he looks just like a white/blue belt.

    If someone has been training 8 years and hasn't been promoted then they, and probably their instructor, really suck.
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    @alberto
    if you train in a submission grappling club, unless its luta livre (they can have belts system) your reward would be to be able to perform techniques also in a full sparring contest, same as bjj with gi.
    a belt is visible as well the ability to perform. in a grappling club you wouldnt have any reward or belt or level, still your reward would be the ability of defeat a sparring partner in a full sparring grappling.

    and if you train in bjj dont worry,you will feel good having the same belt for 3 or more years (example) and being at your top game.

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