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    Quote Originally Posted by blasted1 View Post
    Why is everyone automatically siding with McBursthoop over his loose , unsubstantiated comments over Gilani ? When the top team in Scotland DNFT were accused of sandbagging at a recent event where they won the team event there were no disparaging comments on this forum (they were no doubt well deserved winners given the calibre of their team and this isn't the point ) . However as soon as McBursthoop gets rammed by his angry uncle and decides to vent his spleen and target Gilani everyone starts to question the merits of his achievement . McBusrthoop is making all of this personal , similar to his his attacks on other coaches and people should see that as soon as it's personal it looses credibility .
    unsubstantiated – “unsupported by other evidence”

    My claim that Gilani was a cheating sandbagger was supported by a video of him competing over a year ago, this would constitute other evidence you simpleton. Why in Krisna' name would you use words you don't know the meaning of?
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    [QUOTE=jimmynotini;841306]I agree with you, i think taking on better guys makes you better. but it depends on how big the margin is. And if someone who has trained for just over a year and comes up against a purple/brown belt he might get hurt, i know there is a small chance of this, but if it happens ppl will say he shouldnt have been in that division to begin with. i can understand with smaller comps like kilmarnock not having an intermediate division, but there should be in bigger comps[/QUOTE

    I agree the cost of entering is a factor if you feel you may only get one or two matches.

    To play devils advocate though the same could be said about the twice a week hobbyist competing with Pro MMA fighters or guys like yourself who can train almost full time and make a living coaching.

    Unless your one of the elite there's a very good chance that somebody you may have to face will have an advantage over you be it skill, experience, strength / speed / fitness. If you don't like your chances within the rules of the comp then don't enter (like your guys) don't sandbag /cheat.

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    Thinking about it, i agree with you Tom, they shouldn't enter if they dont fancy there chances or think they might get injured.

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    [QUOTE=McBlackbelt;841313]unsubstantiated – “unsupported by other evidence”

    My claim that Gilani was a cheating sandbagger was supported by a video of him competing over a year ago, this would constitute other evidence you simpleton. Why in Krisna' name would you use words you don't know the meaning of?
    Blasted? Your forums posts equate to shite being Blasted out your mouth.

    Whilst you have the cowardly persona of a troll , you actually make some valid points however these will be eroded if you continually personalise your attacks as you have done with Gilani and other coaches who you have an issue with. For all of the coaches you target , their students or former students did alright at the weekend . Incidentally ,put some bepanthen on your sore hoop

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    Firstly McBB, thanks for posting one of my youtube videos, will get me lots of views and no publicity is bad publicity.

    Now, this is a tough one. The problem is I think a misunderstanding. I don't think everyone is fully aware of the -1 year and over 1 year rules. People just get too caught up with the words "beginner" and "advanced".

    Now as regards sandbagging, everyone is at it. In my first competition, I faced the coach of the Scottish Wrestling team. He had been wrestling for over 20 years. It was a beginner level competition. Sandbagging to my understanding is when a competitor goes in at a lower level than they are in order to get a win. As Jimmy says, majid is in no way an advanced grappler, although he has confirmed he will never enter the beginners division again.

    You are singling him out but as someone who goes to every competition in Scotland, I could if I wanted to name at least 30 people who have either lied about their experience level, or been sandbagged (entered gi comps at white belt and been promoted to blue belt the very next day).

    Sandbagging gets you nowhere in my opinion. In one comp I faced someone who had been offered a blue belt before the comp but refused it so they could enter at white belt. I beat him. It is a waste of time. Majid wasn't sandbagging, if anything he was just worried he would get smoked, which he would have as he well knows.

    I say we should congratulate majid for winning TWO gold medals.

    Edit - majid actually lost a match earlier in the day, so it's not like he was far too good for the beginners category.
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    As jimbo said I'm almost sure everyone's at it,give the guy a break !

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    How can BJJ be taken seriously when people like this Sandbag and ruin it for everyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnLocke View Post
    How can BJJ be taken seriously when people like this Sandbag and ruin it for everyone?
    Well it was not bjj now was it, it was a no gi ( bjj being mostly gi orientated ) tournament , so technically nowt to do with bjj !

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    Cause "everyone" does something doesn't make it acceptable. I am not making a judgement on anyone in this thread but people's reasons for partaking in sand bagging are nonsense. It was quite simple, under 1 year beginner, over 1 year advanced, there probably should have been an intermediate but there wasn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainsy View Post
    Cause "everyone" does something doesn't make it acceptable. I am not making a judgement on anyone in this thread but people's reasons for partaking in sand bagging are nonsense. It was quite simple, under 1 year beginner, over 1 year advanced, there probably should have been an intermediate but there wasn't.
    Exactly, Sandbagging isn't helping anyone and its ludicrous that people are trying to defend it. A gold medal in the beginner section is good but a gold medal in the advanced is awesome, people should be looking forward to competing in the advanced section.
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