UCMMA 28 Review: Bostwick gets Brutal

[Evzy]

So if I point out I don't post on here anymore, does that mean I am gonna get the ban hammer. Fucking poor show banning Subz for nothing that.

Jimmy raises a valid point on this - was AG supposed to turn it down when it was offered to him? Seriously? The fighter has to have more intergrity than the promoters who offer the title shot? Any fighter fights, the promoters promote, shouldnt be up to the fighter to dictate that his opponent isnt worthy of making it a title fight.

Also noting Bean you state fighters have already voiced favourable opinions of AG, maybe you need to focus not on AG but the people who put the fight together? I don't see how this is AG's fault?

~gets my best ban outfit ready~

[BakedBean]

So if I point out I don't post on here anymore, does that mean I am gonna get the ban hammer. Fucking poor show banning Subz for nothing that.

Jimmy raises a valid point on this - was AG supposed to turn it down when it was offered to him? Seriously? The fighter has to have more intergrity than the promoters who offer the title shot? Any fighter fights, the promoters promote, shouldnt be up to the fighter to dictate that his opponent isnt worthy of making it a title fight.

Also noting Bean you state fighters have already voiced favourable opinions of AG, maybe you need to focus not on AG but the people who put the fight together? I don't see how this is AG's fault?

~gets my best ban outfit ready~

I have said a number of times that both the promoter and fighter are to blame.
I have also stated that I accept that many do not agree with my assesment of the situation and its not something that can be proven right or wrong and will ultimatly come down to individual opinion so we will just have to agree to dissagree.

The Sherdog issue is a potentially much larger problem and that is really what this thread has become about.

[Evzy]

I don't see how a fighter could be to blame, do you expect someone to turn down a fight when they are already in training and have racked up bills? Its up to the promoter - after all, they are the ones hosting the show, whatever fights they match reflect on them, not the fighters involved. Noting MANY don't agree with you on this one Bean, I think you need to aim those sights at the promoter not the fighter.

But its UCMMA we are on about, so it not a shock for you to target the fighter not the Org. Said it before, will say it again, I think if it was BAMMA etc, you would have torn them a new one for this, but instead you choose to focus on a fighter who needs to earn a living instead of the promoters who chose this as an acceptable fight. I admit I know nothing of the opponent, if he was suited for it (noting his record, I think maybe not....) but again, its down to the promoter not to mismatch opponents, otherwise what, every fighter gets to hand pick their fights from now on?

Agree with you on the Sherdog thing, but I think the matchmaking needs to be addressed noting that was the initial issue you raised or now that people have got behind AG are you just going to drop that noting its UCMMA?

[BakedBean]

AG's friends and manager are blaming UCMMA for the title fight which to be fair is correct but they share part of the blame.

Im sure it wasnt forced on him and if he said he didnt want the fight to be for a title then it wouldnt have been.

Jack Mason did make in interesting point that the champion will now have to defend it against all comers which could vindicate him to some degree if that is what actually happens moving forward.

Dont get me wrong I am not saying he was wrong to fight a can at short notice , i am just saying that he and the promoter have let us down making it for a title.

UCMMA stated that they did not want to let him down as it happened to him twice on their show and I understand the sentiment and perhaps I would think differently if I were a promoter but sometimes things go wrong more than once and its just part of the fight game.

Its a tough call and perhaps if I were a promoter with all pressure for ticket sales and taking care of the fighters I would see things differently but for a top fighter and major show I think having a title fight like that is wrong.

What part of this post did you struggle to understand?

I spoke to them and they stated their reasons, i understand but dissagree with them.

Everybody is arguing for AG so I am responding to that.

This is not something that can be resolved, we all just have to agree to dissagree and move on.

I have been trying to address the Sherdog issue but it keeps coming back to the original point which has been flogged to death.

[Evzy]

What part of this post did you struggle to understand?



I have been trying to address the Sherdog issue but it keeps coming back to the original point which has been flogged to death.

What part of it don't you understand, you seem to get quite offensive when people question you Bean old chap, you seem to feel that questioning people is your remit and no-one else's? Why is that?

I am simply pointing out you went after the fighter not the org when its the orgs responsibility to match the fight not the fighter, yet you choose to ignore this? Why is that?

The original point hasn't been flogged to death because its been brushed under the carpet the moment people leapt to AG's defense, yet the initial issue re why the match was made, which again is UCMMAs responsibility has been swept under the carpet alongside it.

You know we will butt heads when it comes to you and UCMMA, simply because I feel when it comes to them, you have nothing to say, yet you campaign for Fight the bullshit, but UCMMA are exempt it seems, their fighters are the ones you expect to be responsible for the matchmaking? Why is that?

So..what part of this post will you struggle to understand

[BakedBean]

No it's when people are constantly talking bollox I get offensive.

I had a conversation on FB with UCMMA about this yesterday morning before I spoke to anybody .
They made their point I made mine , we agree to disagree .

I posted what they said and what my opinion was but nobody defended them so that was that.

As soon as AG is mentioned he is defended so the debate is obviously focussed on him with the printer being blamed and my agreeing that they are to blame but with the fighter also saddling part of the responsibility .

You have this "idea" so you keep repeating it and repeating it but you never offer any substance which is why on occasion I have to call you an idiot.

Doesn't mean we have to be enemies just as long as you acknowledge that I am superior to you .

(why isn't he banned yet?)

[Evzy]

Doesn't mean we have to be enemies just as long as you acknowledge that I am superior to you .

(why isn't he banned yet?)

Let me start by saying I did burst out laughing at that, well played sir.

I havent seen the FB conversation between you and UCMMA - is it on here? Anywhere us joe publics can see it? I have missed it if so.

I feel it harsh you call me an idiot when I point out the obvious fact (obvious to everyone bar you maybe) that you do go easy on UCMMA - yes yes yes you can tell me about how you took them on many many many moons ago, but lets be honest, it wasnt ever to the extent you have gone after any other org, the way I see it, if its got legs and barks its a dog, if its got fins and flaps around like a twat on the pavement, its a fish, thats how I call things - as I see them. I don't think that makes me an idiot nor would I call you one just because you dont seem to grasp that, because I am a good person who doesnt lash out with abuse when questioned, I just don't jump up and down like a headless chicken everytime you proclaim your godliness - I am an atheist so maybe thats why I don't buy it at times? There is a simple question that I could ask that could clarify this to an extent, but I couldnt be sure of the answer given being truthful so I won't bother asking it.

Said it before, will say it again, genuinely have no problem with you (other than when you call me an idiot), but who Bean's the Bean?

As for superior to me, dude, seriously, for one I am better looking (I dare you to prove otherwise), two, I am obviously far wittier, three, my penis is larger (I dare you to....erm, nah actually its ok, lets just agree I have a schlong for the ages), four, I have no need to hide behind a secret identity, five, there is no need for a five because I wrapped that shit up in four. So explain that to me again in case I missed something?

Still love me Bean?

[Jimmy Boogaloo]

Hahaha nice back and forth, quality posting!

[Evzy]

Shhh maybe I am talking to myself.

[starwar1]

What ever happend to the days when someone would call the other person a muggy cunt and it would be settled in a car park behind the jolly. I miss them days this is far to grown up for me.