ATTN Mattew Wise & Carl White - I need to be reimbursed

[sidnideans]

Yeah he probably expected me to make it into a super success, but like I said to him, I'm not a promoter, I saved him 75% on his last show and lowered all his costs and the huge cost of the venue and left the promotion down to him, I came back from 2 trips to Vegas a week or two before the show and ticket sales were not great, I said he should get rid of some flashy stuff, loads of ring girls and expensive camera crew but he didn't want to listen, pre sales were ok but was not going to cover the cost so it was down to on the door sales, they were ok but left a 5k defecit, which I rightly assumed he would pay no problem as he paid the last show of 20 grand he said.

There was 300 people there so another 200 and he would of made money and would of paid everyone, cause he didn't he didn't pay, and never returned to mma again. He now boxes.

He just wanted guidance in general and help with costs, which I did. I was happy to have my fighters fighting on the show, so I saw it as a win win as I love mma, it was fun til he ran off at the end of the night...

[BakedBean]

Yeah he probably expected me to make it into a super success, but like I said to him, I'm not a promoter, I saved him 75% on his last show and lowered all his costs and the huge cost of the venue and left the promotion down to him, I came back from 2 trips to Vegas a week or two before the show and ticket sales were not great, I said he should get rid of some flashy stuff, loads of ring girls and expensive camera crew but he didn't want to listen, pre sales were ok but was not going to cover the cost so it was down to on the door sales, they were ok but left a 5k defecit, which I rightly assumed he would pay no problem as he paid the last show of 20 grand he said.

There was 300 people there so another 200 and he would of made money and would of paid everyone, cause he didn't he didn't pay, and never returned to mma again. He now boxes.

He just wanted guidance in general and help with costs, which I did. I was happy to have my fighters fighting on the show, so I saw it as a win win as I love mma, it was fun til he ran off at the end of the night...

Thank you for your contribution it makes sense but my understanding of the law is that you entered into a contract with everybody you gave a cheque to when you gave it to them.

The fact Matthew then failed to honour his agreement with you is something for you to pursue with him but ill expand more on this later.

Ill give Matthew Wise 24hrs to see if he will give his version of events before I comment any further.

[Fightway]

My message exchange with Matthew Wise, I can post the messages exchanged with Carl White too if you want.

[BakedBean]

My message exchange with Matthew Wise, I can post the messages exchanged with Carl White too if you want.

Considering he is booking limos to go out partying for his birthday he shouldnt have a problem honouring his promise to you.

[sidnideans]

Thank you for your contribution it makes sense but my understanding of the law is that you entered into a contract with everybody you gave a cheque to when you gave it to them.

The fact Matthew then failed to honour his agreement with you is something for you to pursue with him but ill expand more on this later.

Ill give Matthew Wise 24hrs to see if he will give his version of events before I comment any further.

i'm def not disputing the technical side of things or the law, but i wanted to get the story straight so it is clear to everyone what happened. not only was i doing a friend a favour, i also got ripped off and stung with my fighters not getting paid (even though i paid them out of my own pocket, i was still down alot of money too) on top of this im being typed with the same brush as matthew who has clearly been ripping people off from the very first show.

hopefully that will explain things a bit better to those who read whats been put on here and that dont know me personally, i dont need to rip people off and i would never do shit like that, especially in an area where i know everyone and operate a successful business. i do hope kael gets his money though, as he really is a good guy and i looked after his guys personally when they came over to the uk and made sure they were looked after and had a great time, so its a shame he's out of pocket also.