Assault or fair game?

[twitchboy]

A friend of a friend who I don't like very much decided to go train Judo at a well known club. He's one of these guys who has done and seen everything. If you've got a lotus elise then he's got a Ferrari, you know the type.

Anyhow, he's your classic cage fighter wannabe who genuinely does refer to BJJ/MMA as "UFC". He's a big guy and I suspect he's probably a bit of a bully, although I've only ever seen him behave like a know it all twat rather than a bully.

He goes along to a beginners Judo class and within fifteen minutes he's telling the instructor that he's teaching techniques wrong. He's making remarks to the instructor who was teaching some groundwork like "what good is that when your opponent is raining down punches on your head"?

There is absolutely no disputing the fact that this guy is a grade A bellend. I have heard of people turning up to martial arts classes and behaving like this but I have always felt it to be a bit of an urban myth. Until now I have never personally known someone do it. Although I didn't actually witness this clown's idiocy, I do believe that what I have been told about his attitude during this class is accurate and that he did indeed behave like a complete and utter tool.

The instructor could and perhaps should have just asked him to leave, but instead he insisted on having a roll with this guy seeing as he seemed to know so much. As you can imagine, it was one way traffic and it apparently got kinda nasty. My understanding is that bellend tapped very late and got choked out. He now alleges that he's been assaulted by this instructor and has reported the matter to the police.

I think it's fair to say that this instructor did go too hard on a guy who was clearly nowhere near his level, despite bellends bragging. How do you instructors deal with this kind of thing? Does it happen often? Have you had a few 'friendly' rolls with know it alls with stinking attitudes that you have let go too far?

Is it assault or is it fair game when someone comes into your dojo giving it large?

[Rob T]

I would roll with the guy and make it VERY uncomfortable for him. Only subs would be chokes applied slowly.

If people query stuff during class with stupid points like mentioning punches, I tell them to stfu.

[Sledge]

Sounds like a typical pussy hole twat. Went in all big balls and got taught a deserved lesson and then ran off to the old bill screaming like a bitch.

The same thing happens on the street every day. Dickhead starts a fight, gets twatted and then runs off to the filth claiming he was the wronged party.

But think of it this way, That prick has to look at himself in the mirror every morning.

[hysteresis]

If he walked away unharmed with just his pride hurt then it's fair game IMO.

[david5]

it never happened and no one saw a thing officer...

[r-v]

Sounds like a typical pussy hole twat. Went in all big balls and got taught a deserved lesson and then ran off to the old bill screaming like a bitch.

The same thing happens on the street every day. Dickhead starts a fight, gets twatted and then runs off to the filth claiming he was the wronged party.

But think of it this way, That prick has to look at himself in the mirror every morning.

Then you the innocent party are being charged for ABH and GBH charges after defending yourself :-(. It only makes him look like a vagina now so he won't be giving it the jinny large tits for now on to every geezer in the pub

[mainsy]

Knee ride face, switch to solar plexes, knee ride face, swithc to solar plexes, they tap out. Start again, knee ride face, swith to solar plexes etc. 6 mins of that can make someone cry.

[Spinning Back Fist]

likely very difficult to prove. one persons word against another. unliley that the guys students will say anything against their coach. the guy is definitely a tool

[bjjbaker]

No way is this assault, regardless or not whether he came in giving it large. Im sure a fair few people have been choked out during training all the time, some of which I have witnessed, they wake up and get on with it. At the end of the day its just bjj and thats what happens

[Loud_Spy]

Had problems with 1 or 2 bell ends like this in the past. One guy was massive and used to bang people in sparring all the time, after it got too much the 1 time the instructor whacks him in the ribs with a side kick he tries to sue.

I've not heard of the wankers winning in this type of situation as already stated the genuine students would pretty much always back up the instructor.