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    Did Aaron judge on the recent UFC uk event in Nottingham anyone?

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    Yeah I'm 99% sure he did
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    Yes he did about 5 bouts inc 2-3 on the main card of the Notts one as well as 2 he has done in Brazil now. They seem to like him and I reckon the guys who run the UFC know a thing or two about MMA

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    i know Mr Ratner agreed with all of his decisions at UFC Nottingham

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    http://www.mmaviking.com/madadi-robbed-in-rio-ufc/

    Reza Madadi was declared the loser in the first fight of UFC 153 in Rio. Madadi was facing Brazilian Cristiano Marcello, and the verdict by the judges differed than almost every fan and those in the media… and MMA Viking.com staff and those in the Swedish Media. While “robbery” may be a bit extreme, a score card of 30-27 against the fighter from Sweden was irresponsible judging (shame on you – UK judge Aaron Chatfield). Another judge giving the fight to Madadi also?

    MMA Viking looked at websites around the world to find scorecards and opinions of the bout with our local fighter, Reza Madadi, fighting in Rio against Cristiano Marcello. While many additional views on Twitter from those like Mauro Ranallo that called the score “off” and Ben Fowlkes (USA Today / MMAJunkie) “robbed”, below are websites that posted round-by-round results on their websites or Twitter:

    Round 1
    10-9 Madadi – sportv.globo.com (Brazil’s largest media) Play-by-Play
    10-9 Madadi – MMAWeekly.com Play-by-Play
    10-9 Madadi – Sherdog.com’s TJ De Santis
    10-9 Madadi – Sherdog.com’s Chris Nelson
    10-9 Madadi – Sherdog.com’s Mike Whitman
    10-9 Madadi – MMAjunkie.com Play-by-Play
    10-9 Madadi – MMAjunkie.com’s John Morgan
    10-9 Madadi – FightLine/OpposingViews.com Play-by-Play
    10-9 Madadi – TSN.ca Play-by-Play
    10-9 Madadi – MMA Fighting Play-by-Play
    10-9 Madadi – BloodyElbow.com Play-by-Play
    10-9 Madadi – Josh Gross ESPN
    10-9 Madadi – 5thround.com Play-by-Play
    10-9 Madadi – MMABay Play-by-Play
    10-9 Madadi – Bleacher Report’s Nathan McCarter
    10-9 Madadi – mmarising.com Play-by-Play
    ———– – Oficial Scorecards ———–
    10-9 Madadi – Cardo Urso OFFICIAL JUDGE at UFC*
    10-9 Marcello – Romulo Bettencourt OFFICIAL JUDGE at UFC* – NOT IN THE MAJORITY
    10-9 Marcello – Aaron Chatfield OFFICIAL JUDGE at UFC* – NOT IN THE MAJORITY

    Round 2
    10-9 Madadi – sportv.globo.com (Brazil’s largest media) Play-by-Play
    10-9 Madadi – MMAWeekly.com Play-by-Play
    10-9 Madadi – Sherdog.com’s TJ De Santis
    10-9 Madadi – Sherdog.com’s Chris Nelson
    10-9 Madadi – Sherdog.com’s Mike Whitman
    10-9 Madadi – MMAjunkie.com Play-by-Play
    10-9 Madadi – MMAjunkie.com’s John Morgan
    10-9 Madadi – FightLine/OpposingViews.com Play-by-Play
    10-9 Marcello – TSN.ca Play-by-Play – NOT IN THE MAJORITY
    10-9 Madadi – MMA Fighting Play-by-Play
    10-9 Madadi – BloodyElbow.com Play-by-Play
    10-9 Madadi – Josh Gross ESPN
    10-9 Madadi – 5thround.com Play-by-Play
    10-9 Madadi – MMABay Play-by-Play
    10-9 Madadi – Bleacher Report’s Nathan McCarter
    10-9 Madadi – mmarising.com Play-by-Play
    ———– – Oficial Scorecards ———–
    10-9 Madadi – Cardo Urso OFFICIAL JUDGE at UFC*
    10-9 Madadi – Romulo Bettencourt OFFICIAL JUDGE at UFC*
    10-9 Marcello – Aaron Chatfield OFFICIAL JUDGE at UFC* – NOT IN THE MAJORITY

    Round 3
    10-9 Marcello – sportv.globo.com (Brazil’s largest media) Play-by-Play
    10-9 Marcello – MMAWeekly.com Play-by-Play
    10-9 Marcello – Sherdog.com’s TJ De Santis
    10-9 Marcello – Sherdog.com’s Chris Nelson
    10-9 Marcello – Sherdog.com’s Mike Whitman
    10-9 Marcello – MMAjunkie.com Play-by-Play
    10-9 Marcello – MMAjunkie.com’s John Morgan
    10-9 Marcello – FightLine/OpposingViews.com Play-by-Play
    10-9 Marcello – TSN.ca Play-by-Play
    10-9 Marcello – MMA Fighting Play-by-Play
    10-9 Marcello – BloodyElbow.com Play-by-Play
    10-9 Marcello – Josh Gross ESPN
    10-9 Marcello – 5thround.com Play-by-Play
    10-9 Marcello – MMABay Play-by-Play
    10-9 Marcello – Bleacher Report’s Nathan McCarter
    10-9 Marcello – mmarising.com Play-by-Play
    ———– – Oficial Scorecards ———–
    10-9 Marcello – Cardo Urso OFFICIAL JUDGE at UFC*
    10-9 Marcello – Romulo Bettencourt OFFICIAL JUDGE at UFC*
    10-9 Marcello – Aaron Chatfield OFFICIAL JUDGE at UFC*

    Final Scorecards
    29-28 Madadi – sportv.globo.com (Brazil’s largest media) Play-by-Play
    29-28 Madadi – MMAWeekly.com Play-by-Play
    29-28 Madadi – Sherdog.com’s TJ De Santis
    29-28 Madadi – Sherdog.com’s Chris Nelson
    29-28 Madadi – Sherdog.com’s Mike Whitman
    29-28 Madadi – MMAjunkie.com Play-by-Play
    29-28 Madadi – MMAjunkie.com’s John Morgan
    29-28 Madadi – FightLine/OpposingViews.com Play-by-Play
    29-28 Marcello – TSN.ca Play-by-Play – NOT IN THE MAJORITY
    29-28 Madadi – MMA Fighting Play-by-Play
    29-28 Madadi – BloodyElbow.com Play-by-Play
    29-28 Madadi – Josh Gross ESPN
    29-28 Madadi – 5thround.com Play-by-Play
    29-28 Madadi – MMABay Play-by-Play
    29-28 Madadi – Bleacher Report’s Nathan McCarter
    29-28 Madadi – mmarising.com Play-by-Play
    ———– – Oficial Scorecards ———–
    29-28 Madadi – Cardo Urso OFFICIAL JUDGE at UFC*
    29-28 Marcello – Romulo Bettencourt OFFICIAL JUDGE at UFC* – NOT IN THE MAJORITY
    30-27 Marcello – Aaron Chatfield OFFICIAL JUDGE at UFC* – NOT IN THE MAJORITY

    15 of 16 (93.8%) Media Members Scored the Bout 29-28 Madadi & 1 of 3 (33.0%) of Official Judges Scored the Bout 29-28 Madadi.

    The overwhelming result is that Madadi won round 1 and round 2, while Marcello won round 3. This is a scorecard of 29-28 Madadi. Out of the 19 scorecards above, only 2 people gave Marcello round 1, and those were official judges for the bout. Did Madadi get robbed? This research would indicate that the scorecards where different than everyone in the media scoring the bout.

    * Official Scorecards from John Morgan ‏@MMAjunkieJohn and Hywel Teague ‏@hywelteague Twitter.

    http://hosteddb.fightmetric.com/fights/index/4078

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    I appreciate all of the above and as much as I enjoy your arguments Sengoku, all those websites have fuck all to do with the result. Bottom line is Aaron wasn't the only judge to score the fight for Marcello... Yes he scored it 30-27 but even if he'd dropped a round to Madadi it would have still be 29-28 and Marcello still would have won. Judging is perceptions from the angles given, there's nothing you can do but call it as you see it and since then the UFC have had him back so they musn't have a problem with it.

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    Sengoku is Reza Madadi's mother ..... ... has to be

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    What are the qualifications and experience of al the websites scoring the fight? Most fans I encounter couldnt score a fight properly if their life depended on it.
    Most think taking somebody down in a round means that round is won regardless of strikes.

    That was the only fight I missed but I am going to watch it again and score it as I see it because at this point it really would not surprise me if Chatfield is correct to the letter of the law and others/majority are wrong.

    It would however surprise me if that was the case and nobody agreed with it because they do not know what they are talking about when it comes to scoring fights.
    Last edited by BakedBean; 15-10-2012 at 03:37 PM.

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    LOL at using 'media' and 'fight fans' as the basis for your argument about judging MMA... as Bean rightly said most havent got a clue about the correct judging criteria of a five min round or a 3 x 5min fight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    LOL at using 'media' and 'fight fans' as the basis for your argument about judging MMA... as Bean rightly said most havent got a clue about the correct judging criteria of a five min round or a 3 x 5min fight!
    Quoted for truth
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