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Thread: Mir vs Cormier - Cormiers last SF fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nimmy View Post
    he battered a top form nog and cro cop, went undefeated, wouldv smashed any HW in his era. The UFC belt hasnt been held for any length of time by any champ, Fedor held his for ages in PRIDE whilst competing against the cream of the crop

    People have real short memories
    But then Wanderlei was unbeaten in Pride for 4 and half years and won't be remembered as the greatest MW of all time?

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    But again it comes down to if you think beating Nog and Cro Cop outweighs beating Carwin/Cain/Mir + Cain/Reem/Cormier.

    JDS impressive victories over Werdum, Stefan Struve and Cro Cop.

    Or is it simply that Fedor went 10 years undefeated that makes him the GOAT? It doesn't matter that Hunt, Zulu, Ogawa, Hong-man had no place being in the same building as Fedor, let alone the same ring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWinstonChurchill View Post
    Once Cro Cop found his range he took it to the ground.

    He didn't want much of Nog's ground game when Nog wasn't carrying a back injury.

    Nog/ Cro Cop or Carwin/Cain/Mir + Cain/Reem/Cormier.

    that shows a smart fighter then surely?

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    But you said Fedor smashed them at their own game.

    I simply pointed out that when Cro Cop started to land that Fedor took the fight to the ground and then he didn't want to the the ground when Nog wasn't carry an injury.

    What is? Did Fedor smash them both at their chosen art or is he a smart fighter?

    Anyway, JDS still needs to beat 4 more legit 10 ten HWs to become HW GOAT. This will not be easy.

    Maybe Fedor would not of gone 10 years without losing if he faced a constant stream of 10 ten HWs?

    Fedor is the GOAT at the moment.

    But JDS will overtake him if he defends his title four more times against top ranked fighters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly. View Post
    But then Wanderlei was unbeaten in Pride for 4 and half years and won't be remembered as the greatest MW of all time?
    I thought Rua left PRIDE with a better rep as a LHW/MW.

    Jones have now overtaken Rua with what he has down the last two years.

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    And to be clear, JDS has to beat.....

    Cain + Reem + Cormier = HW GOAT.

    Take in who he has already beaten, I believe that outweighs beating Nog and Cro Cop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly. View Post
    But then Wanderlei was unbeaten in Pride for 4 and half years and won't be remembered as the greatest MW of all time?
    at the same time chuck liddell was smashing shit up in the UFC, if that fight took place when it should have you would have crowned the greastest LHW right there.

    I think the question is potential vs history. Jones and JDS have the potential but need to build the legacy

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    You don't think Jones has overtaken Wand yet?

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    GOAT is purely down to personal opinion so lol at all the people getting huffy.
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    JDS greatest HW & GOAT??? WTF u smoking crack?
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