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    HUGE news coming through this morning regarding a new fighter safety organisation in UK MMA.

    It's already backed by BAMMA, Cage Warriors and UCMMA, with many others expected to get on board.

    With the likes of Marc Goddard and The Centre of Health and Human Performance on board, it's very credible and udnerway right now.

    Full details:

    http://www.yourmma.tv/news/details.a...initiative.htm

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    Excuse me I have some questions before I blow up my balloons.

    Who collects the money? Who is in charge of the bank account?

    Not for profit? Can we see a schedule of rates that are charged from the Harley St team to the organization please? surely they are not cost prices and contain profit?
    Who scrutinized these and made sure they are the most competitive for the services they provide?

    Who is paying the PR company for writing the press release?
    (is BAMMA's name being first and at the top coincidence? rat smelled)

    How is the UK Governing body that starts operating in 2013 going to be effected by this?
    People are going to be expected to pay two memberships?
    With the money that goes into the UKMMAF's funds presumably going to help pay the expenses for industry professionals volunteering and the money from this organisation going to fund Harley St doctors and PR .

    BUT without investing anything into unifying rules , dealing with rogue promotions who do not pay industry suppliers and participants and fighters

    Now before everybody jumps on me and says that I am being negative, I am all for the governing body and fully support what the IMMAF but what we have in the UK has to be right for us and not just the first thing that comes along.

    I would have much preferred to see what the UKMMAF does in 2013 before this popped up as I would expect them to have covered all of this given they are the ones with IMMAF membership.

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    GOOD GRIEF , thats all we need:

    Izzy Carnwath (BAMMA PR)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BakedBean View Post

    Now before everybody jumps on me and says that I am being negative, I am all for the governing body and fully support what the IMMAF but what we have in the UK has to be right for us and not just the first thing that comes along.
    I can't answer most of those questions, I'm sure Marc Goddard etc. can come in and shed some light.

    However, with regards to this bit, there have been many that have tried to 'come along'. This is far from the first initiative. However, it's got the most credible backing, well-respected names and the number-one ethos needed: fighter safety first and foremost. It's going to be endorsed by the IMMAF/UKMMAF. I know for a fact the likes of Goddard have been working long and hard at this - it's not just something he's 'lending his name to'.

    No doubt it's taken a lot of time and money to get to this point - it's already gone further than anything else, and so it shows they're serious.

    Re: The release, of course it came from a certain party but that's because it's positive exposure for every org that chooses to use it as it shows they're invested in fighter safety, so why would they not promote it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay View Post
    I can't answer most of those questions, I'm sure Marc Goddard etc. can come in and shed some light.

    However, with regards to this bit, there have been many that have tried to 'come along'. This is far from the first initiative. However, it's got the most credible backing, well-respected names and the number-one ethos needed: fighter safety first and foremost. It's going to be endorsed by the IMMAF/UKMMAF. I know for a fact the likes of Goddard have been working long and hard at this - it's not just something he's 'lending his name to'.

    No doubt it's taken a lot of time and money to get to this point - it's already gone further than anything else, and so it shows they're serious.

    Re: The release, of course it came from a certain party but that's because it's positive exposure for every org that chooses to use it as it shows they're invested in fighter safety, so why would they not promote it?
    This is the furthest anybody has come with a governing body.

    The United Kingdom was granted membership in the International Mixed Martial Arts Federation at the most recent board meeting.

    The UK MMA Federation was given observation membership status in a unanimous decision. The task of auditing progress and revising membership status is delegated to the National Federation Establishment Committee.

    The US becomes the 15th member of the growing IMMAF.

    http://www.immaf.org/2012/09/uk-mma-...n-latest-IMMA/

    If I was the UKMMAF I would feel that SafeMMA where trying to steel a march on them.

    Who is going to pay twice next year? its hard enough to get people to pay once.

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    The SAFE MMA registration fee 235 to CHHP, 76 Harley Street includes the cost of the two blood
    tests.

    Really? thats how much it "COSTS" for a blood test? looks more like a retail price to me.

    What on this list are they checking for? http://www.thehealthstation.co.uk/pathology-prices.aspx

    Considering they will be hoping to get about 3-400 minimum of fighters and 7-8 promotion thats going to be well into the 6 figures , who negotiated the rates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BakedBean View Post
    The SAFE MMA registration fee 235 to CHHP, 76 Harley Street includes the cost of the two blood
    tests.

    Really? thats how much it "COSTS" for a blood test? looks more like a retail price to me.

    What on this list are they checking for? http://www.thehealthstation.co.uk/pathology-prices.aspx

    Considering they will be hoping to get about 3-400 minimum of fighters and 7-8 promotion thats going to be well into the 6 figures , who negotiated the rates?
    No that cost is not just for the bloods. There is a cost per screening of blood disease, plus the administrative costs of collating the results with the software and also the results of the medicals that will be carried out by GPs. Also factor in the development of the medical assessment packs that have been designed by a leading sports Professor which are sent out to the fighter's GP. Add to that, the reports from the pre and post fight medicals that are done on the day, the initial entry of all the relevant details to enlist a fighter. I have probably missed something in my rush to type this.
    For those guys that have fought at the UFC, they will tell you that the medicals there total nearer 1500. I thkn SAFE MMA offer good value on that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnJunior View Post
    No that cost is not just for the bloods. There is a cost per screening of blood disease, plus the administrative costs of collating the results with the software and also the results of the medicals that will be carried out by GPs. Also factor in the development of the medical assessment packs that have been designed by a leading sports Professor which are sent out to the fighter's GP. Add to that, the reports from the pre and post fight medicals that are done on the day, the initial entry of all the relevant details to enlist a fighter. I have probably missed something in my rush to type this.
    For those guys that have fought at the UFC, they will tell you that the medicals there total nearer 1500. I thkn SAFE MMA offer good value on that!
    Is this only for Pro UK fighters?

    It says that you pay the GP and the GP pays the Company? Are all GP's aware of this arrangement?


    Whilst it seems a good idea it kinda creates a 'them and 'us' mentality as potentially a Company like Cagewarriors/BAMMA/UCMMA will be paying the same price as a smaller regional show who may be struggling financially anyway. Most potentially would want to join but when you factor all the hassle in and the financial impact them most would decide to opt out.

    Arn't blood tests free through your GP if you have a concern or you say you had a one night stand? and if Promoters of smaller shows are providing Doctors and Paramedics on the night who carry out pre fight medicals and can advise post fight then that is covering the basics with little charge.

    How or where do the blood tests occur? If it is London then what if I had to travel from Newcastle, Edinburgh or Glasgow to do that (another cost)

    Why do Gyms need to pay if their fighters are covered individually? Cant see the benefit of that for the gym and yet another cost
    If you didn't see it with your own eyes, or hear it with your own ears, don't invent it with your small mind and share it with your big mouth!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim2007 View Post

    How or where do the blood tests occur? If it is London then what if I had to travel from Newcastle, Edinburgh or Glasgow to do that (another cost)
    Your GP does the blood tests and sends them to SAFE MMA
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim2007 View Post
    Why do Gyms need to pay if their fighters are covered individually? Cant see the benefit of that for the gym and yet another cost
    19. WHAT ARETHE BENEFITS TO A GYM REGISTERING?
    • Restricted access to its fighters’ medical records (where named by fighter as a representative)
    • All hours results access plus urgent testing service for fighters
    • 12 months Specialist Medical support for any infections or injury concerns for registered fighters
    • 12 months Newsletter on latest advances in sport medicine and performance
    • Positive manifestation of the support of medical safety within the sport
    • Use of SAFE MMA branding at gym premises and stationary
    • Attractive to fighters who are registered with, or looking to register with SAFE MMA
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